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Paul23

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Registered: 01/04/12
Posts: 416
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I am looking at purchasing a new digging tool. At the moment i have been using a boarder spade or my stainless trowel. Seems some of the pasture ground makes digging with the boarder spade a little hard due to having to really stamp on the spade.

I have been looking at something like this, 

However no one seems to stock them in the UK and with shipping and import tax it gets expensive

I am looking at perhaps having something very similar made up at a local machine shop. I have used this shop to produce various items for me in the past including boxes and beach scoops and handles.

So whilst i am looking into this would anyone else be interested in going down this route? If so what sort of design features would you like to see on the digger (Use the linked item as a sort of template if possible).

Please feel free to give your ideas even if you wouldn't want to purchase one at this time.

This is nothing set in stone and will take me a while to get things together, may be the initial cost will put a stop to the whole idea but you never know...

Paul...
botto

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Registered: 02/04/12
Posts: 31
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Hiya mate, I have a couple of digging tools from predator tools and they are really good quality and cut into the ground better than anything else i have used. Your right about them getting pricey as the import tax was about 30 quid each!! The best one i got was the predator mauler 332 but i made the mistake of ordering the standard version which i found to short (i actually gave it to the good lady who runs our club). The dimensions of the one you are looking at look about right as the shaft is a good length. See what you can get similar knocked up from the fab shop you mention and i will have 1 also.

 

Cheers,

Gavin.

Sheddy

Registered: 23/05/12
Posts: 134
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I'd be interested as long as the blade is heat treated correctly.  iv'e had cold formed diggers before and they never seem to stand up to much abuse.  I'm currently using a Bulldog boarder spade.  it needs a bit of modification work doing to the blade shape and sharpness but it seems pretty robust.  one of them there predators would be good for the woodland work, especially when Blistool bring out the 6" coil that I'm going to start a rumour about!
DavyR



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Registered: 27/03/12
Posts: 212
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Just noticed this thread you started Paul, did you make any inquiries yet? This is something I would be interested in.

How do you think something like that would perform in very heavy clay?

Davy.


norfolkngood



Registered: 15/07/12
Posts: 152
Reply with quote  #5 
The Predators look good - but horribly pricey! I've used stainless border spades with longer shafts for several years, with one of them, my detecting partner cut the blade to a shield shape which is easier than the rectangle for digging in grassland but in this neck of the woods, we don't have a great deal of pasture - it's mostly arable. Come to think of it, we don't have much woodland in this neck of the woods either
Being of a certain age, I drag my spade edge on behind me, this gets a large lump of metal well away from the detector coil - especially with a long handle. It is surprising how the edge in contact with the ground when being dragged gets rounded off!
Even in my senile state I am a six-footer so a long handle is needed. I think that maybe if you go ahead with making these a choice of lengths might be a good idea.
Barrie.
Paul23

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Registered: 01/04/12
Posts: 416
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I have given the drawings to the guy who will be making them. I am wqaiting on him for a price, its the correct treating of the digger that is going to cost plus the low number i would be ordering

I think they will end up coming in close to the predator price but without the shipping.

Once i get the price i will post here and see what level of interest i get. If not enought then i will send to the Usa for one.

Paul...
GunnarMN

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Registered: 04/05/12
Posts: 451
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pual. if you can get one with a long handle,  it very hard on your back to use a short handle  i have the little eagle yes it is good  but hard on the back and heavy , i was admiring your shovles  but they dont sell them hear ,  a machine shop may be the best thing then get a light wheight handle , 
paddywhack

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Registered: 19/06/12
Posts: 249
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i done some shopping in wilkinsons and found they had a long handle borderspade stainless steel for 13 quid,it measures 38 inchs,the blade is 9 and a half inches,so next job is to shape the bottom of the blade and put a knife edge down both sides,then the worm population will double?.
jimbotrucker



Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 83
Reply with quote  #9 
I use a black ada, but think they could be altered by putting a serrated edge down the blade
norfolkngood



Registered: 15/07/12
Posts: 152
Reply with quote  #10 
Paddy - That is similar to my spades. My detecting mate complained bitterly about the job he had cutting it to shape, let alone attempting to do the saw edge performance! As I'm sure that you know it is a bu**er keeping an edge on stainless! The pointy conversion works fairly well. Barrie.
Randy Dee



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Registered: 27/03/12
Posts: 384
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paddywhack
i done some shopping in wilkinsons and found they had a long handle borderspade stainless steel for 13 quid,it measures 38 inchs,the blade is 9 and a half inches,so next job is to shape the bottom of the blade and put a knife edge down both sides,then the worm population will double?.


Paddy

You can cut and shape your new spade with an Angle grinder and will only take a few minutes to do it, the only thing I would be aware of is that as these Wilky spades do not have a boot lip across the top of the blade you will soon get holes cutting through your welly soles and also remember if your welly slips off while you are pressing the blade in the ground you will land up with a deep gash in the side of your foot, if you can get a mate to mig weld a couple of stainless steel strips on the top of the blade, you can make these strips from the metal you cut off the blade shaping.
Hope this helps.

Randy Dee
paddywhack

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Registered: 19/06/12
Posts: 249
Reply with quote  #12 
Hello Randy,the spade has 2 boot lips already on,as for shaping etc ive got all the gear  so no problem.
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